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[Unicron]

So today I was thinking about some harsh realities I've accepted that you all might benefit from accepting as well.

1. Vince can sing, he just needs to change his register. You're not a kid anymore. Stop trying to hit those high notes. It's awful. Use a lower register.

2. Stop with the live performances. Pre internet, you could get away with sucking because you had the explosions and the benefit of people getting caught up in the moment and not noticing the suckage. Now, people can sit on their couch or computer chairs and say "blecch, I ain't paying to see that". If you will insist on live TV appearances, then.........

3. Lip sync. Sure, you'll take some heat, but it's better than being exposed. Not to mention, when people who attended the concert say how great it was, the people hearing it for what it was think they're nuts and rebel against the band.

4. Spend some fucking money. Get a producer. Hunker down and write some good songs. Enough of working on the cheap and churning out garbage.

Like is the case with most bands, as we get older, we stop liking bands we did as a kid.

I still like Motley Crue, out of time spent as a fan, but there's one thing that really jumped out to me today:

Dr Feelgood was their most successful album. What was the hype for that ?  They played their first sober gig ever and recorded an album sober for a change.

Really think about that.

[belladancer]

1. Vince can sing, he just needs to change his register. You're not a kid anymore. Stop trying to hit those high notes. It's awful. Use a lower register.

Agree. The media's been slamming Vince for this for at least two years now.

2. Stop with the live performances. Pre internet, you could get away with sucking because you had the explosions and the benefit of people getting caught up in the moment and not noticing the suckage. Now, people can sit on their couch or computer chairs and say "blecch, I ain't paying to see that". If you will insist on live TV appearances, then.........

Agree. I took my man to see them on the SOLA tour. His first time seeing them live and he thought it was ok (he's not a fan). Took him to Cruefest and he's like, "Been there done that...what's different?" Even the pyro seems same 'ol, same 'ol.


3. Lip sync. Sure, you'll take some heat, but it's better than being exposed. Not to mention, when people who attended the concert say how great it was, the people hearing it for what it was think they're nuts and rebel against the band.

Disagree. I wouldn't want to see that.

4. Spend some fucking money. Get a producer. Hunker down and write some good songs. Enough of working on the cheap and churning out garbage.

Agree. If they plan to stay around much longer, they need new and better songs.


Like is the case with most bands, as we get older, we stop liking bands we did as a kid.

Sorta disagree. I don't stop liking them, I just may not listen to them as much. But I do admit when I hear a song it takes me back in time. he he

[Unicron]

1. Vince can sing, he just needs to change his register. You're not a kid anymore. Stop trying to hit those high notes. It's awful. Use a lower register.

Agree. The media's been slamming Vince for this for at least two years now.

2. Stop with the live performances. Pre internet, you could get away with sucking because you had the explosions and the benefit of people getting caught up in the moment and not noticing the suckage. Now, people can sit on their couch or computer chairs and say "blecch, I ain't paying to see that". If you will insist on live TV appearances, then.........

Agree. I took my man to see them on the SOLA tour. His first time seeing them live and he thought it was ok (he's not a fan). Took him to Cruefest and he's like, "Been there done that...what's different?" Even the pyro seems same 'ol, same 'ol.


3. Lip sync. Sure, you'll take some heat, but it's better than being exposed. Not to mention, when people who attended the concert say how great it was, the people hearing it for what it was think they're nuts and rebel against the band.

Disagree. I wouldn't want to see that.

4. Spend some fucking money. Get a producer. Hunker down and write some good songs. Enough of working on the cheap and churning out garbage.

Agree. If they plan to stay around much longer, they need new and better songs.


Like is the case with most bands, as we get older, we stop liking bands we did as a kid.

Sorta disagree. I don't stop liking them, I just may not listen to them as much. But I do admit when I hear a song it takes me back in time. he he

Let me clarify the lip sync part.

As long as Vince Neil wants to keep going through the motions, not work out and not take vocal lessons, then it should either be lip sync or don't do the appearances.  Since the appearances are needed, shape up or lip sync.

Doing what he does now hurts more than it helps.

[belladancer]

Gotcha.

I would have to agree with that.

[The Doctor]

So today I was thinking about some harsh realities I've accepted that you all might benefit from accepting as well.

1. Vince can sing, he just needs to change his register. You're not a kid anymore. Stop trying to hit those high notes. It's awful. Use a lower register.
 
Not only that, but he can't "keep up" aka the infamous skipping words. It just sounds sad when you and people around you are singing every word, though badly, and the talent on stage isn't keeping up with you.

2. Stop with the live performances. Pre internet, you could get away with sucking because you had the explosions and the benefit of people getting caught up in the moment and not noticing the suckage. Now, people can sit on their couch or computer chairs and say "blecch, I ain't paying to see that". If you will insist on live TV appearances, then.........

And many of us "old folks" do NOT dig the festival seating/gruesome pit atmosphere/ marathon 20 hour shows. I will not be going to another Motley show like this ever again.

3. Lip sync. Sure, you'll take some heat, but it's better than being exposed. Not to mention, when people who attended the concert say how great it was, the people hearing it for what it was think they're nuts and rebel against the band.

I wouldn't mind, actually. Heck for me it's all about the nostalgia anyway, so might as well hear it the way I remember it and also he can focus on prancing around even more.

4. Spend some fucking money. Get a producer. Hunker down and write some good songs. Enough of working on the cheap and churning out garbage. And a greatest hits every 2 years 


Like is the case with most bands, as we get older, we stop liking bands we did as a kid.

I still like Motley Crue, out of time spent as a fan, but there's one thing that really jumped out to me today:

Dr Feelgood was their most successful album. What was the hype for that ?  They played their first sober gig ever and recorded an album sober for a change.
Really think about that.



To me one of the things it inplies is "Look ma, we're sober, NOW we're really serious about this whole 'music thing' after nearly a decade in it." lol. I don't know, can't put my finger on it.

I think these aforementioned reasons, and probably a few more points are why, sadly for some fans, Motley Crue will probably not occupy a spot in the Rock and Roll Hall of fame anytime soon, if ever. In my gut feeling, I just don't see it.I still like Motley, and if they did another tour like COS, I would probably go just for the 'spolsions.

 And everytime I listen to the Dr. Feelgood album or one of the songs comes on Satellite radio, I'm INSTANTLY transported back to 1989 with my own crew, tearing it up around town. A crew now strewn apart around the country saddled with domestication. *misty eyed*

Those times are dead and gone. I've put them in the proper healthy place of a fond memory to revisit once in awhile. Not a life to desperately keep living. It just the natural way of things to evolve and progress. Or else you're just a caricature.

[Virus]

I reckon they should be doing say 60% cd track vocals and 40% Vinces vocals live, like what a lot of popstars do, I know Pink does it. I think even Green Day do it now because Billie Joes voice sounds too fucking good live, back in 05 he sounded like shit.

If they did that and he got vocal training and lost a bit of weight he'd sound somewhere decent not Bruce Dickinson, Alice Cooper or James Hetfield decent but somewhere like he did a number of years ago when he wasn't skipping every 2nd word.

[LAPD]

I've seen Vince solo a few times. Sometimes he sounds better than others. Saw him open for Poison and his show was great. This was at a HOB. Saw him at a BBQ event & he sounded like ass. This was on a cheesey stage in a parking lot basically. I really don't think he cares too much though. I think he was content playing 80's festivals & state fairs up until The Crue reunion in 2005. One thing I do admire about Vince is he knows who he is and what people expect. See him solo, you're gonna hear Crue shit, and that's what people want.

I will pick up his solo album for the simple fact I liked his 1st 2 solo albums. But he if lets Desmond Child write the music for him like that "Promise Me" song, I can promise you they will suck.

To be honest, i'm more concerned about The Crue's future. Saw the CF 2 & I wasn't too impresssed. Maybe it was because Tommy wasn't playing and I thought playing the entire Feelgood album was a horrible choice. Who the fuck wants to hear "Time for change"? Play "Bastard" for christ sake.

[Harleigh]

1. Vince can sing, he just needs to change his register. You're not a kid anymore. Stop trying to hit those high notes. It's awful. Use a lower register.

Really, who CAN reach the same notes they could 20 plus years ago? I do have to say that I saw him in a solo tour a couple of years ago and he did a fabulous job. A little tweaking is in order. (And that is coming from a "Vince fan")

[Unicron]

1. Vince can sing, he just needs to change his register. You're not a kid anymore. Stop trying to hit those high notes. It's awful. Use a lower register.

Really, who CAN reach the same notes they could 20 plus years ago?

[LAPD]

Bruce Dickinson.

[Unicron]

This is the kind of thing I am talking about.



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[Harleigh]

1. Vince can sing, he just needs to change his register. You're not a kid anymore. Stop trying to hit those high notes. It's awful. Use a lower register.

Really, who CAN reach the same notes they could 20 plus years ago?

You got me there, bro. Really, though...he is more the exception than the rule. Agreed?

[Unicron]

1. Vince can sing, he just needs to change his register. You're not a kid anymore. Stop trying to hit those high notes. It's awful. Use a lower register.

Really, who CAN reach the same notes they could 20 plus years ago?

You got me there, bro. Really, though...he is more the exception than the rule. Agreed?

[Virus]

1. Vince can sing, he just needs to change his register. You're not a kid anymore. Stop trying to hit those high notes. It's awful. Use a lower register.

Really, who CAN reach the same notes they could 20 plus years ago?

You got me there, bro. Really, though...he is more the exception than the rule. Agreed?

you forgot

[Unicron]

1. Vince can sing, he just needs to change his register. You're not a kid anymore. Stop trying to hit those high notes. It's awful. Use a lower register.

Really, who CAN reach the same notes they could 20 plus years ago?

You got me there, bro. Really, though...he is more the exception than the rule. Agreed?

you forgot

AC and Hets weren't known for their range though.